PHASE TOO
TODAY'S DATE: The Next Life
Q- NAMES USED:
Phase Two and stuff that will remain a secret...
Q- YEAR STARTED WRITING? YEAR RETIRED?
Since everyone is claiming that they started in 70' or 69' even though they are sons...I guess I started before there were even trains...I'll leave it at that.
I used to be a Chinaman. I really believe that...like 2000 years ago. So they don't have a thing on me.
Get me a clean car today and I may attempt to do awhole car...like a Volkswagon....
Q- AGE WHEN YOU STARTED:
105 or 107...I get confused..living all of these reincarnated existenses.
Q- WHERE IN NYC?
Could've been The Bronx or Manhattan...Probably I put a signature up in the projects..which wasn't really so cool. Gotta keep ya environment scribble free.
Q- WHY DID YOU START WRITING?
I had to go to school..so I didn't have much choice. I hated it because I was quite good at it. Basically, my cousin was doing it..and it seemed to besomething that I wanted to do...I felt that it was for me. I don't do things because it's trendy or because everyone else does it. THAT'S WEAK!!!
I was going to write Eye 9. Why??? Don't ask me.....anyway I didn't. But remember that in Kamitian heiroglyphics the eye has a deep meaning..but that name doesn't have any flavor..it's as corny as Hot 110. The name I carried...is/was my essence so to speak.
It's a level of consciousness...that's beyond the 1st plateau..but not necessarily on the second. Two..is the equivalent..of movement...It's a next stage that's on an infinuim....Does anyone know what latu garada nicto means??
If you think about it no one was using regular one digit numbers back then and no one had names that were not typical given names or representative of a thing that wasn't a material thing. So..that's something I started.
Q- WHO WERE YOUR WRITING PARTNERS (IF ANY)? STILL IN TOUCH WITH THEM TODAY?
I guess that I had a few....Lee 163d! Was probably the first. Sweet Duke 161. H.S. 575....my moms...I can't really recall...I spoke with Lee recently. I guess that Riff and I were sort of partners... El Marko 174...Lava one...Cool Jeff...
Q- WRITING GROUPS YOU FOUNDED OR CO-FOUNDED?
Glad that you asked. And people should know that before them..there were none in the Bronx and the people who were in it were down with that crew first. I established the Bronx Ex Vandals and The Original Fabulous Five...which was writers like Sweet Duke, Nehi 161, Lee 163d!, Turban one, Egg Nog, Stay High 149, Ray B 954, Dice 198, Riff 170, Rip One and Snake 77,..That was like 200 years ago...I can't recall everyone at the moment...but I still have the sticker with the names of the members on it.
Technically F5 was more or less the first group that came straight out of the Bronx. Around the same time myself, Sly II and Lee 163d!! used to put up "Crimson Crossfire". Then there was The Independents/Change - The Stars.
Now in relation to the Independents...Let me make a point. Someone did a mad stupid interview that was straight up ficticious nonsense in relation to the IND's (Independents) that I want to clear up.
They ran some dumbness that they were not allowed into the group because they were white. First of all son had absolutely no status whatsoever when he proposedly wanted to be down..thus, that in itself would play an ample factor in refusal into the group. Don't you think???
I'd tend to think that he didn't ever remember who was in the group... which was THE GROUP of groups in that era when we were together. Or just wanted to dramatize something that never happened...Next time leave me the fuck out...dunnnnnnn
The IND's -
We are the group that initiated repping the style factor. We were the first group that had within it a canton of stylists that had ultimate burn ability. Plus we had some of the craziest bombers as well.
There was...In one/Kill 3, who made the first sinful step of "revolutionizing" bombing.
Dice 198/Sir, Cliff 159, Jester 1, Right there you have a monster team of bombers. Then there was Ajax one, John 150, Nic 707, Billy 167... P-nut 2, I don't believe that they could pass for black. So that should kill that stupid accusation I mentioned.
There was King 2, Checker 170, Bic and Jr. Bic 149, Riff 170, Bot707, Cost 1/Palo...Apollo 5...Sonny 107, Zest one...I believe...O.G. II. Step one who destroyed the sixes......Stick 1,....Rip one...I guess that I missed some fellas..but if anyone knows names they get the point...In the very beginning you couldn't be down with more then one crew. But...I couldn't tell people like Jester and Cliff that they couldn't write 3yb even if it got me vexed...
Q- WRITING GROUPS YOU BELONGED TO?
The above mentioned....
Q- YOU WROTE YOUR FIRST TIME ON A WALL, BUS, TRAIN, OR TRUCK?
Man I don't remember stuff like that. I believe my first train was a leader...back in...hm.....Oct....1000,000 years B.C...anything else you heard was a misprint...
Q- YOUR FIRST HIT EVER, WHICH MEDIUM DID YOU USE, i.e. MARKER, SPRAY PAINT, PEN, ETC.?
I'm sure like most writers back then..(You didn't know that we had markers in the stone age huh???) I started out with markers...But once we "discovered"...got our hands on spray paint it was all over.
People tend to forget that I started out bombing. That's before pieces..and I really killed the Bronx trains with big above-the-window-signatures...Multiple signatures....Signatures in circles.
That definitely set a pace for the likes of the Superkools of the Bronx. He had been writing Sweey Yokes bfore that..but he wasn't killing it 'till after me and Lee went bananas on the 2's and 5's.
Q- WHERE DID YOUR NAME COME FROM?
I guess I'd have to say a bastard language...but if you pronounce it Fa-say--it's something else...like f' you...no...no...that's another word...I mean like... endless light..or something...
Q- WHICH WAS THE FIRST SUBWAY LINE YOU HIT? (IF YOU HIT SUBWAYS)
I don't like to answer stuff like this...lets just say my thing was mainly the 2's, 4's and 5's...
Q- WHAT OTHER SUBWAY LINES DID YOU HIT?
I went just about everywhere. Back then it wasn't necessarily about being all city...but one did want to get to as many lines as one could. I loved the RR's. We used to hit them in the Brookln Bridge stop. They were virtually clean besides some Scooter and Paranoid
hits. That place was heaven.
Q- WHAT YARDS & LAYUPS DID YOU WORK AT?
I loved the four yard. 231st. The 6 yard. Zeraga... New lots was quite insane and hot at times. I was basically a lay-up head. 219 Allerton Ave...225, on the 2 line. 183rd on the 4 line was sweet. But if you didn't watch it...the train would creep up on your dumb, lone ass at the blind hill top on Burnsides outry. I almost caught a bad one there one night after we got raided in the four yard and I decided to solo it...dumb move..very dumb move.
Esplinade was the bomb on the Dyer avenue line. Too sweet. Dyer Ave was crazy in the afternoon. Baychester...sweet...but eerie... Kingston...The E tunnels...In the eighties the 1 tunnel but you had to come there with ya pistol...and that is kinda retarded. The three yard was dumb nice in the 80's...too...
Q- WHERE YOU 'KING' OF ANY PARTICULAR SUBWAY LINE(S)? IF "YES," WHICH ONE(S)? WHAT YEAR(S)?
It's better if you ask someone else that. I had my days of dominating but I was never interested in Kingship. I destroyed the lines when I had to and initially made my mark. As I started to see the potential of writing...I became more involved with creativity...and just continually went from one extreme to the next. When someone picked up on one thing...I was inclined to leave it alone and go to the next thing. Thus I may have had ideas that I didn't develop to their potential extreme...
I just wanted to have "something" that you could identify as solely mine...and I couldn't do that if other people were doing my letters or ideas (like "No Comp"..."Do it", Exp...etc...)
Q- WHO WAS YOUR MENTOR? (IF APPLICABLE) DID YOU MENTOR ANY OTHER WRITERS?
I guess that I could say in the very beginning it was Lee 163d!!! But not really. I fit into the game very quickly and almost from the star I set a pace that others followed. B'way inspired me because it was the example of what this was all about in the beginning. As far as who I mentored...That's for the ones that I mentored to say.
As far as who I influenced. If you want to talk about style....I don't mind who claims to have started before me....there ain't but one daddy in that category. Because even the ones (the few) that I could mention that I feel initiated the foundations of what we call
"style" and the ones that followed...they saw what I was doing first and ran with it before they were doing anything. How are they going to deny that???
What happened after..is another story. We are speaking initially...and the primary factor was yours truly...
A writer that started in the 70's and threw points/arrows (that had nothing to do with your signature), Loops, Hearts, Letters coming off
of your letters....arrows off of arrows..not to mention the softie letters and soft styled letters...well that stuff in relation to a piece that wasn't done like your signature..(mind you my signature pieces were done similar to my piece style but was different and still connected).....that began with me...and the ones that came into their own as stylists were doing that stuff and building from it...so....people need to stop pretending that they came from no where.
I try to give respect where it's due..even though it's been cock blocking season for like twenty years when it comes to some people doing it visa versa. I just had a conversation with someone who reminded me that I used to be on 149th and Grand Concourse...(annnnnnnnd incidently I started that so called writers bench...there) and how there used to be a crowd of writers getting outlines from me.
I was a leader...and I never really looked at it like that...but it's factual...It extends beyond pieces...there are not many..if any who can say...that every other thing he did...everyone else wanted to do...
Q- WHICH WRITERS DID YOU LOOK UP TO? WHY?
Well we'll go back to Broadway..again. You have to think of Broadway as a Lambourgini when everyone was used to Model T Fords...I probably look down on more writers than I look up to them. One reason is because..we are not being responsible for this culture...and too many people that have a little juice are using it to juice themselves. You have people these days that made mediocre marks in writing or are far from top notch, who never represented Hip Hop jumping on the dick just because they are getting calls to be involved in Hip Hop events (yeah I said it and if the shoes fit tie them up!!!) as what??? A rep???
I hate primadonnas. I can't stand opportunists. I loathe fake phoney cartoon animation individuals...haters...and crab slackers that are just in it these days for the superficial glory. If I had a better phrase to say in relation to them I would, but since I don't...I'll just have to go with that age old universal verse. Fuck em!!!
As far as who I respect...No one need care!!! But....There's New York cats like TATs crew who I have mad love for, first, because of their commeradery. That's what writing was always about. Plus I feel these guys are highly innovative and have the potential to blow a lot of fish out of the water. They rise to the occasion when they have to. There's stuff that Bio was doing in the early eighties that's still retarded.....and they are crazy consistent.
Overall I think that the bulk of New York is sleeping on the rest of the movement and is no where near being at the helm where it once was. I think that being the mecca has us thinking that all we gotta do is show up with our name placques and that'll do it....but being
gassed on that myth ain't gonna burn anyone.
I will always respect Dream One who passed away in February of 2000. The reason being that people like himself and Spie had the balls to stand up for the people and they represented a cause that was important for the people and our youth. I ain't fronting...he was kinda like a guy we know as MICO.
Too many of us are not willing to make statements that are going to make a difference or set forth change when change is needed.
We tend to not mind being followers or flow goers...not even bothering to realize where that flow we flow with is flowing. We are sort of stuck in a bind and I think the culture here shows that...if you are not living in the New York bubble you can see that.
Q- DID YOU INTRODUCE ANYTHING NEW TO THE MOVEMENT? IF 'YES,' WHAT WAS IT? WHAT YEAR?
Man...tell people to burn their G' Bible...and get the book "STYLE" Wrioting From The Underground...if they want to know a few things about what I did. I don't like being on my bone...though by now I
should be showing up at symposiums with it slung over my shoulder.
I guess that I mentioned a few things here in this questionaire already...most of it is still around...one thing is the explicit and obvious notion that letters could be contorted and distorted beyond what we were initially given. Now I'll state that through the signatures of Brooklyn writers that transformation was clear...but I'd say that with spray and the virtue of outlines that that ideology was made a lot more evident and had it's biggest impact once piecing came into the picture.
That's one little thing that I brought to light...which I think you'd have to say is a big thing.
Q- HOW LONG WOULD YOU ESTIMATE THAT EACH GENERATION OF WRITERS LASTED?
Good question...How the hell am I supposed to figure that??? maybe 5 years or so...But don't take my word for it. I lasted longer than that...but I was a little retarded...but not as retarded as my man Blade who was going 12 straight...
Q- WHICH WERE YOU FAVORITE COLORS TO WORK WITH?
I liked to do contrasting colors...mad simple stuff...early on. Like beige and brown...sky blue...regal bloe...yellow red...basic stuff...
I wasn't Mr. Colorful...not at all...
Q- WHICH BRAND OF SPRAY PAINT WAS YOUR FAVORITE TO WORK WITH?
Actually I liked this stuff called Magic Spray...which we used to go all the way out to Queens to get.
Q- WHICH MARKER WAS YOUR FAVORITE?
Probably Nijis...I never really liked unis or midis...
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